Bad things happen when empires fall apart

08/03/2010 at 14:53 11 şərh

Harking back to Armenia in 1915 will only drive modern Turkey into China’s arms

The best thing said about the Armenian tragedy was a sermon delivered in the main church in Constantinople in 1894, more than 20 years before it happened. Patriarch Ashikyan had this to say: “We have lived with the Turks for a thousand years, have greatly flourished, are nowhere in this empire in a majority of the population. If the nationalists go on like this [they had started a terrorist campaign] they will ruin the nation.”

That Patriarch was quite right, and the nationalists shot him (and many other notables who were saying the same thing).

Now a US Congressional committee has had its say, by voting to recognise as “genocide” the mass killing of Armenians by Turkish forces that began in 1915, during the First World War.

Is the committee right? When the First World War broke out there were Armenian uprisings and the Patriarch’s fears were realised. The population in much of the territory of today’s Turkey was deported in cruel circumstances that led to much murder and pillage.

But genocide? No, if by that you mean the sort of thing Hitler did. The Armenian leader was offered a job in the government in October 1914 to sort things out (he refused on the ground that his Turkish was not up to it). The Turks themselves put 1,600 men on trial for what had happened and executed a governor. The British had the run of the Turkish archives for four years after 1918 and failed to find incriminating documents. Armenians in the main cities were not touched. Documents did indeed turn up in 1920, but they turned out to be preposterous forgeries, written on the stationery of a French school.

You cannot really describe this as genocide. Horrors, of course, happened but these same horrors were visited upon millions of Muslims (and Jews) as the Ottoman Empire receded in the Caucasus and the Balkans. Half of its urban population came from those regions and, in many cases, the disasters of their families occurred at Armenian hands.

Diasporas jump up and down in the politics of the United States — as an American friend says of them, when they cross the Atlantic, they do not change country, they change planet.

Braveheart is, for the Scottish me, a dreadful embarrassment. I have to explain to Kurdish taxi drivers that the whole film is wicked tosh that just causes idiots in Edinburgh to paint their faces and to hate the English, whereas there cannot be a single family in Scotland that does not have cousins in England.

But what will be the effect of the resolution in Turkey? The answer is that it will be entirely counterproductive. Yes, the end of the Ottoman Empire was a terrible time, as the end of empires generally are: take the Punjab in 1947, for instance.

Disease, starvation and massacre carried off a third of the population of eastern Turkey, regardless of their origin. But of all the states that succeeded the Ottoman Empire, Turkey is by far the most successful; you just have to look at its vital statistics to see as much, starting with male life expectancy which not so long ago was a decade longer than Russia’s.

Turkey is in the unusual position of doing rather well. She has survived the financial mess, her banks having had a drubbing some years before, and exports are humming. The Turks are not quite used to this, and this shows with the present Government, which (as the Prime Minister’s unfortunate anti-Israeli outburst at Davos a year ago showed) can on occasion be triumphalist.

This Government has been remarkably successful, not least in getting rid of the preposterous currency inflation that made tourists laugh, but it should not be allowed to forget the bases of Turkey’s emergence: the strength of the Western connection, the link with the IMF, the presence in the West of tens of thousands of Turkish students, many of them very able.

However, every Turk knows that, during the First World War, horrible things happened, and for Congress to single out the Armenians is regarded in Turkey simply as an insult.

The Turkish media is full of tales about the resolution, and there has been a great deal of dark muttering about it. There are Turks who agree that the killings amounted to genocide, and there has been an uncomfortable book, Fuat Dundar’s The Code of Modern Turkey, as some of the government at the time did indeed think of ethnic homogeneity (though not the killing of children).

But the dominant tone is more or less of contempt: who are these people, to orate about events a century ago in a country that most of them could not find on the map? It all joins with resentment at US doings in Iraq, and in the popular mind gets confused with the Swiss vote against minarets or Europe’s ridiculous admission of Greek Cyprus to their Union.

In practice the Turks are being alienated, and will be encouraged to think that the West is doing another version of the Crusades, that “the only friend of the Turk is the Turk”, and other nationalist nonsense of a similar sort. Nowadays Turkey does not need the Western link as before: trade and investment have been switching towards Russia and Central Asia; the Chinese are quite active in Ankara. Is that what we want to achieve, in a country that is otherwise the best advertisement for the West that anyone could have imagined back in 1950?

Norman Stone*

Source :  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article7053138.ece
*Norman Stone is Professor Emeritus of Modern History at the University of Oxford and head of the Russian-Turkish Institute at Bilkent University, Ankara


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  • 1. Ali Erdağ  |  13/03/2010 at 02:13

    Gardaşım beni onurlandırdınınız size ve arkadaşlarımıza yürekten teşekkürlerimi sunarım

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  • 2. Ali Erdağ  |  13/03/2010 at 02:28

    BİLİNKİ TÜRKİYEDE BİR ALİ ERDAĞ KARDEŞİNİZ VAR

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  • 3. Ramiz Mammadli  |  14/03/2010 at 12:44

    Ela!

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  • 4. Руслан Шыхлар  |  14/03/2010 at 12:44

    burdan ermənilərə, və onları dəstərləyən eşşək balalarına səslənirəm, MAMANET QUNEM!!! НЕОДНОКРАТНО!!!DƏFƏLƏRLƏ!!!

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  • 5. Aira Jamellia  |  14/03/2010 at 12:45

    gr8!!!

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  • 6. Vuqar Axmedpashayev  |  19/03/2010 at 11:49

    men bir wey bawa duwmuremee,ermeni genasidi olub yoxsa yox?eger olmuyubsa bes niye bele muzkireler edirsizeee,birdefelik bele weyoi silin beyninizden vessalam da.ermeni genasidi sozu vabwe iwlenmesin,uox olub getsin.iqnor eliyinde bele weyi.dogurdan bir qram duwunceniz yoxduye:(((

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  • 7. AyGun Kerimova  |  19/03/2010 at 11:50

    Ehh…her weyi bele komputerdeki kimi ignor eliyib ve ya delete eliye bilseydik nevardiki…..

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  • 8. Yegane Akifqizi  |  19/03/2010 at 11:51

    duzdur ne qeder ki biz bu haqda, yani olmayan yalanci genosid barede danisib, muzakireler aparacayiq, o qeder de dunya birliyi ve diger avropa olkeleri de buna bigane qalmayacaq

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  • 9. Musfig  |  23/03/2010 at 10:01

    Mence artig danishmag yox ish gormek lazimdir. Yeginki coxlariniza artig dostumuz kim, dushmenimiz kim oldugu aydindir. Bilmiyenler ucun deyim, Muselmanin dostun yalniz Muselmandir, basgalari ile elage saxlamag, mehriban olmag, alver etmek, ish gormek v.s olar, amma qeyri muslimlere arxalanmag olmaz, onlarla dost olmag olmaz. Bugun qondarma Ermeni genosidinin muzakiresi ABS-da ve bir sira olkelerde bunun subutudur, bilinki ABS-da qondarma soygirima ses vermede “Yox” deyenler bu qondarma soygirima inanmadiglarina gore deyil, sadece helede Turkiye ve Azerilerde istifade etdiklerine gore yox dediler, seher bizi bir eski kimi istifade edib qurtaranda bizi bir kenara atacaglar, hetta bugun ABS oz sehfini deyishse biz bu etdiklerini hec zaman unutmamaliyig, biz calishlaiyigki onlar bizi yox biz onlara istifade edek

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  • 10. Musfig  |  23/03/2010 at 10:03

    Yarali aslana ancag kopekler saldirar.

    Dunyada ard ardinca parlamentlerde qondarma soygirimimi sese qoyanlara Aslan Turklere saldiran caggalardir, amma aslan yaralida olsada yenede Aslandir, kopek ve caqqalar guclude olsa yenede caqqaldir

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  • 11. Cevdet  |  06/05/2010 at 00:13

    I don’t understand why are they blaming it on Turkey. It was crippling Ottoman’s problem. Even there was a genocide Turkey has nothing to do with it! The Genocide they are claiming happened in 1915 Turkey established in 1923. It was Ottoman’s problem, if not then Let’s blame the Germans not the Nazis for the Holocaust. Stop blaming on Turkey!! Bugger off!

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